Subject	I dont think everyone thinks like you and I do.
Posted by	Ash's Z (In Progress) on May 14, 2004 at 5:14 PM
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In Reply To	To me bolt-on means just that. No modification needed. posted by Spongerider :) on May 14, 2004 at 04:18 PM
Message	And I think you basically said the same thing I did, just a little differently. I wouldn't expect someone who has no automotive experience to interpret 'bolt-on' as meaning they would be able to go out there and install these turbos like changing their oil, but you never know... I would expect though that if someone is going to purchase performance turbochargers, they would fully educate themselves at least on what all is involved, if for nothing else than to justify the multi-thousand dollar expense of them. Most people would get the information they needed and realize they need to take it to a professional to have done. At that point, a 'bolt-on' turbocharger as I portrayed the term would mean that they would not have to purchase any other parts specific to the turbocharger swap or be charged any additional fee by the installer for installation when compared to the install price of stock turbochargers. [ ashleypowers.com ] [ agpowers@bellsouth.net ] [ Zemulator Information Sheet ] [ Z1 Motorsports Website ] Enthusiasts soon understand each other. --W. Irving. Are you an enthusiast? If you are out to describe the truth, leave elegance to the tailor. Albert Einstein
Follow Ups	Z1......and there stage 3 turbos. Venting - You Loze 13:06:52 05/14/04 I'd ask for money back for the labor as well. (n/m) - Kenny 13:10:31 05/14/04 Re: I'd ask for money back for the labor as well. - You Loze 13:15:37 05/14/04 So that's what they owe, a three time charge. - SuparexTT 17:45:07 05/14/04 " (n/m) - Chris(NJ) 14:11:41 05/14/04 Whats the # for Rich @ Ztech? - Diomedes 13:14:24 05/14/04 RZT Performance: - hey GotBo0st 00:00:30 05/15/04 Same type of problems...no word, back-order, etc... - 90NA2TT 13:15:46 05/14/04 Re: Same type of problems...no word, back-order, etc... - You Loze 13:21:24 05/14/04 Paragraphs next time please. I quit reading 1/2 way into - AbnormallyAspirated 13:19:40 05/14/04 I apologize i wrote it so fast, i wasn't thinking about it. (n/m) - You Loze 13:25:23 05/14/04 at least it sounds like they are trying to work it out with - robo (sebring1970) 13:20:23 05/14/04 I agree with you, but the way z1 is acting right.... - You Loze 13:24:17 05/14/04 good customer service would be sending a new set. - Chris(NJ) 14:11:05 05/14/04 help me out - SactoTodd 13:28:24 05/14/04 well here's the problem. - You Loze 13:33:00 05/14/04 Hmm... Sorry to hear about your troubles. :( - Spongerider :) 13:35:34 05/14/04 I hope so man, thanks for your words. (n/m) - You Loze 13:39:46 05/14/04 I'll be sure to change the pictures of the stage3's on our - Ash's Z (In Progress) 13:48:56 05/14/04 So are they bolt-on or not? - SeedyROM (ZCON 2K4!) 13:57:55 05/14/04 Seedy I spoke to Russell when they were getting there turbos - You Loze 14:07:57 05/14/04 I don't know man - SeedyROM (ZCON 2K4!) 14:16:24 05/14/04 Thanks for your words. (n/m) - You Loze 14:23:14 05/14/04 If Z1 developed/engineered the turbos, then why is Garret - nixit 14:25:34 05/14/04 Thats exactly how i see it, thank you for your words. (n/m) - You Loze 14:27:46 05/14/04 These same turbos are called "Sport700's" by JWT. - Ash's Z (In Progress) 17:04:31 05/14/04 Take a look at the bottom of the link - Spongerider :) 14:19:47 05/14/04 Exactly, good find. (n/m) - You Loze 14:22:28 05/14/04 You also see in that message it was a prototype setup - speedr300z (ATL) 14:23:55 05/14/04 Trust me it wasnt minor. The fact is the turbos smoked bad. (n/m) - You Loze 14:29:26 05/14/04 Getting a little carried away there, Dean. :) - Ash's Z (In Progress) 16:00:03 05/14/04 To me bolt-on means just that. No modification needed. - Spongerider :) 16:18:57 05/14/04 I dont think everyone thinks like you and I do. - Ash's Z (In Progress) 17:14:24 05/14/04 Well, they dont install themselves, ;-) - Ash's Z (In Progress) 15:28:21 05/14/04 holy shit man. you should be either getting him new ones or - Pure-Evil 15:57:36 05/14/04 Here's the analogy; - nixit 16:28:02 05/14/04 There's a lot more to the situation than I think you are - Ash's Z (In Progress) 16:58:52 05/14/04 well sorry but i would be pissed too. and if you say rich - Pure-Evil 20:38:32 05/14/04 Call COZ, he'll fix you up! (n/m) - PIRANHA 17:44:40 05/14/04 Buy PE1420 from Kyle when you get your $ back - Ghozt 13:53:40 05/14/04 No need to get emotional about it. This is all business. - ScubaSteve 14:04:39 05/14/04 Well i dont see this having to be a court issue....... - You Loze 14:10:20 05/14/04 He was not the first guess who was? - Spongerider :) 14:12:59 05/14/04 Acutally sponge, i got my turbos before he had dynos. (n/m) - You Loze 14:19:07 05/14/04 I see.. (n/m) - Spongerider :) 14:20:30 05/14/04 The ones on my car were the very first set that we received. - speedr300z (ATL) 14:27:42 05/14/04 Sorry to hear man. Next time stick w/ different companies. (n/m) - Chris(NJ) 14:09:18 05/14/04 are you supposed to use stock or stock sized oil lines? - ScubaSteve 14:11:38 05/14/04 They sent me stock oil lines, which didnt fit properly - You Loze 14:18:00 05/14/04 did they come with oil line restrictors? (n/m) - aliaZ 14:29:38 05/14/04 Nope (n/m) - You Loze 14:38:05 05/14/04 that might be a problem - aliaZ 15:07:31 05/14/04 They use stock oil lines... (n/m) - speedr300z (ATL) 14:39:54 05/14/04 right, so do my PE1420's - aliaZ 15:06:11 05/14/04 The IHI BB cartridge is more sensitive to oil pressure - Chip(GMS Racing) 20:23:17 05/14/04 ok, thanks for the info (n/m) - aliaZ 22:46:02 05/14/04 OEM lines have their own 'jets' to reduce oil flow. - Ash's Z (In Progress) 16:02:12 05/14/04 you're right, but - aliaZ 16:07:26 05/14/04 The cartridge used is the same as HKS2530's, JWT530BB, - Ash's Z (In Progress) 17:26:08 05/14/04 ok, thanks - aliaZ 22:49:40 05/14/04 Contact me today. I am in and out a lot. - Russell@Z1 14:56:06 05/14/04 Re: Contact me today. I am in and out a lot. (n/m) - Spongerider :) 15:04:06 05/14/04 I've called the last 3 or 4 days and you werent in, is there - You Loze 16:30:47 05/14/04 looks like this must be an 'out' time.. ;) good luck (n/m) - Scotts94z32 10:26:43 05/15/04 No, actually he called and we talked. (n/m) - Russell@Z1 11:45:04 05/15/04 well said (n/m) - dpjax 21:12:23 05/15/04 Z1 needs to impove their customer service skills - Stickeefingerz 15:57:43 05/14/04 Thats why they are 'the largest and best z32 parts supplier' - nixit 16:08:09 05/14/04 From experience, the guys at Z! are good guys to work with. - SwatSavZ 18:16:16 05/14/04 I think he is very damned patient.... - Magnum 06:57:31 05/15/04 Z1 is turning into another ZToyz. Sad :( (n/m) - ZRestorer 18:41:04 05/14/04 Really, please explain how you are coming to this conclusion - aZiator 20:43:30 05/14/04 sounds like he's trolling, honestly - RobWR14 21:30:34 05/14/04 Its called biting off a little more than we can chew - Russell@Z1 22:23:20 05/14/04 sounds like it's time to throttle back on growth - fourZero 00:24:34 05/15/04 damn skippy - ZRestorer 00:43:30 05/15/04 please don't respond to any of my posts - fourZero 00:45:47 05/15/04 LMAO - ZRestorer 00:54:54 05/15/04 Oh, you didn't jusy say that, lol :) - ZBlacktt 03:08:32 05/15/04 I think everyone can see the differences there. - Russell@Z1 10:16:38 05/15/04 I know Russ, just playing w/ ya :) (n/m) - ZBlacktt 12:52:13 05/15/04 Can you see the difference why my parts are still not here? (n/m) - AZ4GE 00:13:04 05/26/04 Hang in there, they will take care of you in the end and1 - aZiator 20:45:03 05/14/04 That sucks man, I was up at RZT on tuesday, Rich was tellin - hey GotBo0st 00:11:46 05/15/04 Sorry to hear things still haven't been resolved :/ - Magnum 06:59:05 05/15/04 ...the only problem I see is communication... - dpjax 21:09:40 05/15/04 I feel your pain brother! - AZ4GE 23:20:46 05/25/04
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